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hello. you're watching "gmt" on bbc world news. the top stories. the bodies of the victims on board the malaysian airliner that crashed in eastern ukraine have been moved outside rebel territory. most of the 298 victims are thought to be on the train. reports say they'll be flown to netherlands for identification. i'm tim willcox live in kiev where the government has struck a cease fire deal with the rebels in the east of the country allowing international investigators access to the
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crash site itself. there have been more air raids on gaza. there are attempts to broker a cease fire. we're talking sanction as in the wake of the crash. >> absolutely yes. ministers talking about tougher sanctions to hit russia where it hurts. the economy imposing sanctions that hit the whole economy s. it that simple? the commercial relationship works both ways. it's midday here in london, 7:00 a.m. washington, 2:00 p.m. in the ukrainian town where pro russian and government forces have agreed to a cease fire to allow investigators full access to the malaysian airlines crash site. a member of the osc monitoring
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team says will there are three teams of experts at the scene. the black box recorders have been handed over. a full sweep of the site is needed to determine who downed the plane. 200 bodies have arrived by train to the ukrainian city of kharkiv. let's take you to ukraine live to the capital and join my colleague tim willcox. >> you join me live in the ukrainian capital where there have been developments in the last few hours. not all have been positive. international investigators and families of those 298 victims of malaysian airlines flight mh 17. let's take you through the developments as we understand them. our correspondent is at the crash site itself where osce and malaysian investigators are.
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he just tweeted the smell of death a waited them. we heard from the osce they believe the wreckage of the flight has been tampered with. the flight recorders or black boxes have been handed over to malaysian officials. they're now in malaysian custody to be handed over to international teams when the time is right. meanwhile a meeting of eu foreign ministers is underway in brussels with britain in particular looking for tougher sanctions against russia. our correspondent is in the small village in the east of the country where a large part of the wreckage is now in the field. most of the bodies we understand have been collected from there. let's go to the latest now. >> well, right now malaysian experts are in the field just up the road from me here.
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they're looking at side. there are three teams at the site right now. finally really it does begin to feel like a bit of a break after the long wait. at the moment we still have more questions than answers about what happened to to mh 17. >> it took four days of tense investigations for this to finally happen. when it did, rebels turned over flight recorders of mh 17 into a ceremony. journalists were summoned at midnight to witness the signing of what rebels call memorandum of understanding. represented by this man, a russian citizen and alleged russian military intelligence operative. now in the spotlight as a self-declared prime minister of the separatist republic of
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donetsk. >> i would like to convey our sincere -- >> and finally most of the bodies too have now arrived in the city of kharkiv under government control. from here they will be flown to netherlands where the pain staking identification process will begin. it does finally feel like a break through. it is so important to remember that the bodies of at least 18 passengers are still out here somewhere in these fields. that means that none of the families can yet be sure they'll be getting loved ones back. >> the wait is far from over. examination of parts of the aircraft that could determine
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what missile was used and who fired it. this enormous area of the crash holds clues that are possibly more important than the information from the black boxes. it's in the middle of a war zone. the day the first investigators arrived, donetsk saw fresh clashes between militia men and government troops. they have promised full access to the site. forensic examination of plane parts has not started yet. experts fear crucial evidence littering these fields have already been lost. >> tim, in the last hour, we heard from the spokesman of the oc who said large parts of the aircraft have been cut into, specifically he mentioned the tail. this could be quite serious. it doesn't come as a complete surprise. with our own eyes we have seen in the last few days how the
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parts of the aircraft were pulled up by the cranes, moved from the fields. we never knew where they went. the osc has not yet said parts have been tampered with. if that emerges, it's certain willy a very serious allegation which will influence the investigation and the answers that everyone is waiting for. >> the pro russian rebels, have they withdrawn from the crash site or are they still visible there? >> they are very much visible. the road that leads up to the crash site, it's important to remember it's a very, very large area. you can drive around 15 to 20 minutes here. there's several dozen fields. there are pro russian rebels guarding the site along the
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road. the osc and international investigators are now getting the access to it. they are looking at the fields. that seems to have begun. >> also, just on the hand over last night of the data recorders, the black boxes, is that because they have just been discovered or have those black boxes been in the hands of the rebels several days? >> we know for sure black boxes have been in the hands of rebels several days under a self-declared prime minister of the donetsk people's republic. it was said a while ago, i believe friday they had the black boxes and said they would then hand them over. so it did take a long time. we have not heard whether they have been tampered with or not. that point a side, one thing is
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that black boxes can only give so much information given the nature of this crash. everyone agrees the plane was clearly shot down. it's the forensic examination of the explosives that the traces of explosives that give us a clearer idea of what missile was used and who was behind that missile. that's why it is very, very important to find out whether parts of the aircraft have been tampered with or not. >> okay. for now thank you very much indeed. that news broke just as the meeting of eu foreign ministers in brussels got underway. there are divisions in europe given the reliance on russia economically and in terms of energy as well. let's go to brussels and get the latest with daniel there.
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britain in particular pushing very hard for further sanctions dan yie daniel. does the rest of europe agree? >> they know they are under pressure to tighten sanctions. the question is can they agree on how far that should go, exactly what measures they should be looking at. britain amongst those pushing for significant strengthens of sanctions. what is in place is affecting individuals travel bans and asset freezes. what some consider this is broadening that, speeding it up, perhaps including more on that list. they could go furtherer and include people on president putin's inner circle to bring it closer to putin himself. at the other end of the scale, the possibility of targeting
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particular sectors of the russian economy for example, energy or defense. that is certainly something that eu ministers have shied from so far. it would be a large step and have significant consequences for countries because many of them have very big trading relationships with russia and a great dependence on russia for energy, oil, gas. you have 28 eu member states here. all of them with different relationships, economically, politically with russia. there's a broad spectra with opinions as to what should happen. germany which in the past has been reluctant to go further in terms of sanctions seems to be moving closer to that direction. the foreign minister arrived this morning and spoke of higher pressure, spoke of sharper measures. some countries are now also talking about the possibility of some kind of arms.
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france under pressure because it is continuing with the sale of two warships which is building russia. the swedish foreign minister said to deliver arms to russia is a position difficult to defend. another foreign minister in favor of the possibility of em bargo the lithuaniaen minister arguing for that before he joined the meeting this morning. a broad spectrum of opinions, f views, how far this should go. they have to find common ground enough to agree away forward to look as if it is something tougher but something they can all sign up to. >> thank you very much indeed.
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it's also worth remembering that the majority of the victims on flight mh 17 were dutch. how important the dutch voice will be at meeting of the foreign ministers meeting in brussels. we'll bring you the developments from here and around the region. for now, from me tim willcox and the team, back to you main lond. >> we have been hearing in the past few minutes, the prime minister of the netherlands. one of our producers was in a press conference he has given and let us know he has said the flights with the bodies on board are going to be flown from ukraine to netherlands on wednesday. that is tomorrow. they're not going to amsterdam or hague. they're going south of the country to a city. from there they'll be taken to a facility. matt also saying in the meeting it could take weeks or possibly
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months to inform the families. that news coming from the neglecter lands from the prime minister. let's bring you up to date with other news. the british government has announced a public inquiry in the death of ex russian spy. there's been mystery surrounding his death after he died after bringing tea laced with radioactive materials. uk denies timing between the announcement and tensions with russia over what's happening in ukraine. a suicide bomber outside kabul airport in afghanistan has killed at least four. the attacker riding a motor bike detonated two kilometers from the run way. the dead are all foreign security guards. this comes after a week after elite afghan forces killed insurgents at the airport. police have found the body of a businessman wanted in
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connection with the ferry disaster in april. his company owned the ship that sank killing hundreds of people. he was identified by forensic evidence and fingerprints. he was wanted on charges of embezzlement, negligence and tax evasion. do stay with us on bbc world news. still to come, it's been one of the most decisive elections in the country's history. we'll have the latest on indonesia's presidential race. for the first time.. ever she let him plan the vacation.
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breaking news to bring you now. the election commission in indonesia has finished counting 130 million votes after a fiercely contested poll in the presidential election. results broadcast on local television point to a victory for the former governor widodo
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with 53% of the vote. the other candidate there on the screen subianto got 46.85% of the vote. the commission expected to bring a formal announcement shortly. let's bring you what we know with the latest. no formal announcement there. can we take it as a done deal mr. widodo is going to be the next president? >> barring any surprises we can certainly say that widodo is poised to become the next president of indonesia. it's been an exciting day. hours before the results were made available to public -- bear in mind in formal announcement takes place in two hours time. hours before these revelations came out, his rival subianto
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went on national television and said he was withdrawing from the race, a contest he deemed unfair and illegitimate. he said he wants no part of it. that raised questions about exactly how legitimate joko widodo's victory would be. officials we spoke to throughout today said it doesn't matter. counting continues and they have to announce the winner of this election by this evening. the official tallies have shown that mr. widodo is poised to become president of this country. >> there's been a lot of extra security deployed across the country. is there a feeling that after the announcement there could be unrest? >> i saw unprecedented security as you mentioned on the streets today in front of the election
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commission. in fact some 3500 police in the surrounding streets as well as across the capital. 20,000 police officers. across the country a quarter of a million police officers. that's not something you usually see here when election result is announced. i have to say that the atmosphere has been pretty calm, very orderly. there were protests taking place in support of him a couple hundred meters. they continued as normal. there was no trouble. journalists were expecting a scuffle. the situation has remained in control until now. for now, indonesia's democracy looks to have passed the challenging test. >> thanks for joining us. 16 years old, many seeing that as a real test of that democracy. let's take you to middle east now. gaza ministry says 600 palestinians have now been
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killed. israel continuing bombardment of the territory. 46 killed overnight. israel hitting 70 targets including mosques and a sports complex. rocket fire and mortgager attacks on israel continues. media reports say an irali soldier is missing and probably dead. he was part of a team many an armored vehicle hit sunday where six other soldiers died. 29 have been killed in 14 days of fighting. how's it been today? >> well we woke up to intense aerial campaign of air strikes and shelling to the southeast coming from the sea as well. we've seen a few air strikes close to our office in the past 24 hours. about 50 palestinians have been killed since midnight local time. along the road there are rescue efforts continuing through the
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morning at the residential building which was hit by an irali air strike overnight. paul adams has been there to see what happened. >> this is the middle of kbgaza city. half was brought down by two missile strikes last night. about the time when palestinians were breaking their past. we don't know if there was a warning. local people saying there wasn't. we're not sure. since early light, rescue workers have been here trying to retrieve bodies. it was clearly largely an office building judging by all the papers you can see around us here. crucially we're told people that fled other areas being shelled in previous days had sought shelter here thinking they might be safe. >> i lived with them.
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because it's now under attack, we leave. >> just on our way back, we came across this scene. this is the scene of another strike in the early hours this morning around 4:00. huge explosion at the mosque that blew the walls straight out and trashed this garage completely. a lot of masonry is hauled on this tanker here. it's clear that mosque seemed to have taken the full brunt of the strike. >> we can see from paul's report the demands on the emergency services must be huge. i imagine so too. how are the emergency services
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coping? >> well the united nations says it's dealing with more than 100,000 displaced people. many of them schools around the gaza strip seeking temporary shelter there. i've come across many other people who were staying with friends and family. some have been displaced two or three times over. they keep trying to move around and find places to stay. it's difficult at the moment. it's not safe to move around to get spliupplies to people. gaza suffers a lot of the best of times from water shortages in particular. electricity shortages too. we have seen the israeli bardment here has damaged the water system furtherer and the ongoing bombardments made it difficult to fix that problem. so the humanitarian issues are wide ranging. if you're talking about hospitals, doctors tell us
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they're really struggling to cope with must bes of peop s os numbers of people, 300. there's few medical supplies to deal with the numbers they're seeing. >> how would hamas view a cease fire at the moment? >> well hamas officials we've spoken to remain adamant their efforts must be met. hamas members have been round up in the past few weeks as relations between hamas and israel have deteriorated. they want an easing of border restrictions in gaza. >> thanks for the update. do stay with us on "gmt."
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in this half hour, are we getting closer to knowing what happened to flight mh 17? as the black boxes are handed over, we'll assess what information investigators will get from them and whether or not they could have been tampered with. the challenge of changing tradition in zambia. the country's first lady joins me to talk about stamping out the practice of child brides. >> also we have the business. all the big claims and big
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question. >> it is indeed. download a free gaming app on your phone or tablet. is it really free? many of us end up paying for game enhancements. the commissioner is trying to make the true cost of games clea clear. welcome back to "gmt." three teams of international investigators have now arrived at scene of the malaysian airline crash in eastern ukraine. pro russian and government forces have agreed to a cease fire around their area to allow the experts to carry out their investigations. at the same time, most of the bodies have been remove ed from the site and examined by a team of dutch experts before being flown to netherlands tomorrow. >> getting closer to their resting place in their home
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countries, the train carrying the remains of those killed in the crashes mh 17 has arrived in kharkiv. the city is controlled by the ukrainian authorities and it's from here it's hoped the bodies of passengers that perished will soon leave this fractured country. it's now five days since the malaysian airlines flight came down in part of ukraine controlled by pro russian rebels. last night dozens of reporters packed into a room in the city of donetsk to watch the two black box recorders being handed to malaysian officials by a senior rebel leader. >> i can see the black box is intact. in good condition. >> experts hope the boxes give much needed answers about the crash. the aircraft position at the time, the moment it happened and exactly what caused it. despite signs of cooperation from the rebels, russia is still
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under pressure. after being denied access to the crash site, the u.n. security council voted on a resolution calling on international investigators to be let in. russia voted in favor, but there was criticism that president putin could have made it a lot easier. >> today that international pressure could increase as foreign ministers meet in brussels to discuss stronger sanctions against russia. germany's representative called for them to be made tougher. swedens says it's time for russia to answer for actions. >> we've been seeing since the end of june the significant escalation of supply of heavy weapons, tanks, missiles, rockets, fighters to what is happening the pro russian separatists in eastern ukraine. they're shooting down of the malaysian airliner is a consequence of this. >> while world leaders may have
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secured some cooperation from the rebels in eastern ukraine, fighting continues. there's no sign yet the war is coming to a close. bbc news. we are getting breaking news from eastern ukraine from one of our producer who is is there at the crash site. he is reporting to us that he is hearing sustained rocket fire possibly ground rocket fire that is quite audible in the distance. experts are carrying out their investigation around the mh 17 crash site. we're hearing news of sustained rocket fire coming from the area. as we have more for you, we'll bring it to you. in the last half hour t dutch prime minister has been speaking about the situation in ukraine. the dutch would leave no stone unturned as they leave the investigation at the crash site. he went onto say the first plane with a number of victims on board should leave tomorrow
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evening. >> you know our main priority remains return of all our people. in kharkiv there will be preparations so the identification process this the neglecter lands can be done as well as possible. as soon as a number of victims is ready for transport, a plane will leave. the hope and expectation is tomorrow at the end of the day the first plane will leave. the phase transport of bodies will continue until all remains on the train arrived in the netherlands. as soon as the plane has landed at the airport, the victims will be transported to the military barracks. as soon as the victims have been identified the family will be notified first, nobody else. this could be fast and could also be weeks or months. >> the dutch prime minister also telling at the press conference
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that the black boxes were on board the train that arrived this morning. what could be on those black boxes? our transport correspondent richard. that's a big question. we've all been waiting to hear. one thing said is that they're in good condition. you would expect them to be? >> unless someone has taken a hammer to them or whatever. you can unscrew them and open them. if they've been untampered, they can withstand a crash. >> what information is on the black box? >> there's two of them. one records thousands of bits of data, what the engines were doing, the height, speed, exact location. all the technical stuff. that gives you when what ever what happened has happened. it should rule out mechanical problems completely. the other records sounds. there are microphones in the cockpit. it records the crew voices.
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it records what's going on. they found out amazing things from those. you can hear what the engine note is. if there's an engine problem, you can hear the note of the engine change and analyze a lot of sounds. it's not just voices. what that should pick up theoretically is if there was an explosion near the aircraft. if this was an air guided missile. it explodes near the aircraft. there's more damage. experts are telling my. in theory you might hear that explosion. it would confirm it was a missile. >> there's been so much international concern about how long it's taken investigators to arrive. now we've heard evidence has been tampered with. actual bits of wreckage has been tampered with. how does that change the scope of the investigation and whether
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or not it's valid? >> anything is valid. they'll be dying to get on will there. the first thing you do is map out what you've got. stand back and do what they call the four corners. front, back, two sides. where did everything end up? if something dropped off the airport two miles away, that tells you a lot about what happened. perhaps when they got knocked off the aircraft back there. if everything is close together, the aircraft hit the ground intact. it does seen someone has taken a power saw to bits of the aircraft. what they were doing we have no idea. if they had taken to the tail, maybe they were getting the black boxes out. if in the cockpit, maybe they were getting bodies out. we're only speculating. if it bends outwards, there was an ex ploplosion inside. it matters that things have been
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altered and cut up. they should be able to swap for explosives and tell fairly quickly if it was a missile that blew this aircraft up. they'll know it was a missile. everyone in this conflict has got the same built in the same place. they'd have to to find out where that missile was fired from. that's the key and what the data would tell them. >> thank you for joining us with that. let's get the view from mary now. just international pressure massive on russia at moment. also considering what sanctions to put on russia. >> tougher sanctions are the name of the game. european foreign ministers are in brussels on whether to impose tougher sanctions that could hit entire sections of the russian economy rather than just people. what could it mean for russia and neighbors? well germany's key as russia's biggest trading partner.
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it sells quality cars, medicines and industrial components to russia. germany depends heavily on russian gas. the whole of the eu relies on russian energy buying 84% of russia's exports. in the uk you can almost smell russia's many. it would lose many services by russian firms and services. and of course france which may be reluctant to hit the industry. it struck a $1.6 billion deal to build a warship for russia. it's looking to cancel the deal. we have the director of science in paris. good to talk to you. this is so important isn't it to get consensus among different nations in europe and get some sort of deal put forward tonight or in the coming days?
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>> it is crucial. i believe that t it will be done. some form of consensus will be reached. maybe not completely satisfactory but something will be reached. >> what is it going to look like do you think? >> different nations have different needs and different ties with russia don't they? >> of course it's difficult for every government not to defend it's own economic interests firsts. i think the view of the dramatic situation and in view of the russians authorities behavior, every government understands that now it is really security first. russia is putting at risk not only the security of populations in ukraine but also in europe. so yes, every country will have to make some economic sacrifice. >> let's talk about france's
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particular sacrifice. what do you make of the warship deal? a lot of pressure on the french government now to cancel at least part of that deal. >> yes. it was a bad deal that was signed into 2011. a very controversial deal signed. now the new french president and government are very embarrassed with this deal they decided to go ahead with it before the ukrainian crisis. now it's difficult to find a way of putting out of it. the president yesterday night in paris said he might be reconsidering at least the sale of the second warship which means that france is adjusting its position. >> let's talk about the position of the general public and how important that is. of course we have political and economic pressures on germany,
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france and uk and indeed other european countries. also as important some would argue is public opinion. >> the french are outraged. like everybody else in europe and in the world. i don't think there is a problem to convince public opinion that something has to be done to put a lot more pressure on vladimir putin's government. >> okay professor, good to talk to you. thank you very much. now let's move on. you may have noticed many popular apps are free to download but temp users to pay for ingame features later. companies must do more to stop users especially children from being misled by so called free apps. it's urging app google to make the true cost of games clear.
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adverse market conditions, indications russians are perhaps worried about the way foreign investors view russia. the london market up three quarters of a percent. that's it for me. back to you. do stay with us on bbc world news. still to come, going to be speaking to zambia's first lady about the issue of child marriage as a major conference gets underway here in london. really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. low dues... great terms... let's close. introducing at&t mobile share value plans... ...with our best-ever pricing for business.
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i'm lucy hockings. our top story this is hour. the train carrying the bodies of crash victims of flight mh 17 arrived in the ukrainian city of kharkiv outside rebel territory. indonesian election commission has completed the
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counting of 130 million votes. widodo has won. his rival subianto we understand is contesting the result. the idea that a as young as 8 years old could be forced into marriage is a shocking reality and mobilizing the world over to do something about it. a major international summit is taking place in london today focussing on the issues of female genital mutilation and child marriages. let's hope the summit ends the practices once and for all. we have this report from zambia's capital. >> a typical day in the life of a teenage girl in zambia. going about her daily chores around the house. you may think there's nothing wrong with this picture, but the tragedy is this 17-year-old has
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been forced into marriage. we were able to speak to her because her husband was away. she did not want to be identified. >> my parents set me down and told me i was no longer their responsibility. they wanted me to move out and start a life of my own. things moved faster than i expected when a stranger paid a bribe price to my parents. i had no say in the matter. i didn't choose this life. i'm not happy here. >> villagers have been summoned to a meeting by their leader. >> in our communities there are customs. >> this is one of the few traditional leaders in zambia to speak out against child marriages. he told his community he would not tolerate this customary practice. he wants young girls to be kept
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in school. >> the stance which i have is that no parent shall force a girl below the age of 18 to go into marriage. a parent who does that will be severely punished. >> traditional leaders in many parts of the world are starting to challenge old customs that seem to be harmful in order to protect children against early and forced marriages. they're starting to realized that this is a sad reality for millions of girls globally. a delegation of international leaders recently met to discuss the problem. in a recent interview with the bbc, machel spoke out against damaging traditional practices. >> traditions are man made and can change. our responsibility is to create the environment to nurture them, to allow them to actually soar
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and then make the choices in life which they believe are the best for themselves. >> it is estimated girls who become pregnant before their 14th birthday are five times likely to die while giving birth. it is hope had the such discussions will prompt communities globally to protect children against these detrimental practices. we can now speak to zambia's first lady here at summit. thanks for speaking to us. we saw a village speaking out against child marriage. how deep is the desire for change to stop child marriage outside the political sphere? >> i think as we head from the
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traditional leader, i'm actually grateful that public engagement is really going on. media has been playing a great role to raise awareness and traditional leaders are taking it on board to be able to monitor and enforce the stopping of child marriage. when we hear 42%, we have the statistics. 42% of girls under the age of 18 are married off or have had some children. when you hear 42%, really sometimes statistics do not mean anything. if we want to equate it to hiv. sometime back 25% hiv statistics really made government, head of state to declare hiv a crisis. when dealing with 42%, this is
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much more of crisis. we need to start moving. we really need to start mobilizing action. we don't have time to waste. as i said, it's been pleasing. few days before i came here, we heard of parents celebrating the marriage of a 16-year-old child. you would be amazed it was the traditional leader who took it on himself. he went and arrested the husband of this girl. it's an indication word is going around. it's really increasing. we hope we'll be able to move much more than what we're doing now. >> do there have to be more arrests to make a change given the legal age of marriage is 21?
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>> i think we can make a change. we have seen in zambia leadership being demonstrated at different levels. at the community level, traditional leader's level. even at political level. i think you agree with me that zambia has been in the way of mobilizing ministries. we have ministers coming together working for a common cause. most the time you find minister ste tends to not step on toes. many traditional affairs have come together and made changes. it was interesting the last summit we had to hear different ministries making pledges on what they're going to be doing.
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so the way has been sown. if you like in papers, a lot brought forward by the media, talking about what is being done. we need to do more. we can't relax and that all well. the level of understanding is increasing. we sit back and need to make sure that you know, even within ministries, if we take for example the issue of law, we have the customary law which is recognized by the satisfactory law. sometimes these do not go together. they conflict. we have the traditional leaders calling for government to be able to stand and make sure that all these laws are moving and speaking the same language and really not opposing each other. that's gratifying. >> good to hear. thank you very much for joining us will there. the first lady of zambia. >> thank you very much.
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